but obviously, like, wow is this the portrayal of blacks i want to put out and what hollywood shuffle is all about? >> well, you know, part of the thing is that, you know, actors of color come in different kind of shapes, sizes and training. and i just remember actors that were classically trained auditioning for these pimps and it is like, i ain't got no money. when i get out of this car, better make sure you pay me. hello. these amazing. >> oh, robert townsend, thank you so much. good to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me on the show. thank you, guys. all right. up next, my thoughts on president's new campaign to help young men of color, got no excuses not to watch. ♪ turn around, barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. [ chainsaw whirring ] humans -- sometimes life trips us up.